Patrick - Thanks so much - it's not only exactly what I've been wanting to do (for some time now) but the example you created is uncannily what I was trying to do on my most recent attempt at this - the text circling a sphere. Though I was not using the word "Renderosity" you've managed also to use the same (or nearly the same) font and bevel option I was using... : ) Now that's what I call service! : ) Thanks again! Thanks also litst for your suggestion - that's definately an interesting way to go about it - which I may even try. Dave