I tried using Bryce as a final render, and went crazy remapping everything. I then got Vue, and use it all the time. Love the lighting and rendering. However, there are some effects I just love in Poser. I'm a volume light cone junkie. Using it and Nerd's fog prop gives me the volumetric effects I want for close up shots. Vue works better for me in bigger scenes, and where I want to use special effects without all the hassles I have to go through in Poser to get the same effect (reflections, etc). I almost always use Corel Photo Paint for touchups. Especially the funny bends you get with Mike's shoulders and the sharp lines when posing joints tight. Between Corel and Paint Shop Pro, I get most as good effects as in Photoshop. Photshopo is on my personal wish list though.