My biggest gripe about Poser is the lighting setup more than the rendering engine. I have gotten good results with Poser's engine, but always have to do some post work in Photoshop. Hopefully the new Firefly engine in Poser 5 will produce more consistant results. I also like to render scenes with Poser characters in Vue 4.1. Check my posting on the Vue forum from Tuesday to see a side by side comparison of the exact same scene rendered in Vue and Poser. I imported everything into Vue from Poser in one file. I liked the lighting setup better for this scene in Vue, if you need point lights Vue does a great job. It also does outside scenes better than Poser can.