hflam, not in my lifetime... Rob, my install of XP went; install XP, boot into safe mode, install reset prog, chain into boot sequence, switch off "tour" notification... restart. At no point did I feel the need to contact MS, not that they would have helped, since I don't have a German version of XP, (well, actually I do, I just don't use it :) My mate is trying to do the honourable thing at the mo' he too has a German version, so he phoned MS, they said, "not interested, contact your OEM supplier" so he tried that, and they said, "we don't do support, try the PC manufacturer..." he's running out of options :) I'll register P5 once, for the same reason I leave my seatbelt buckled untill the captain turns off the setbelt sign. But given the number of times I re-install per year I don't intend re-authorise everytime. I'll wait for the crack. Because if the crackers can remove dongles and build key gens for large seed eliptic curve stream ciphers, then nothing CL can build is going to stop them. later jb