I posted this pic on the Vue forum, but I though it was worth posting here too. On the right is a Vue 4.1 render, the left Poser. I couldn't even get the lighting close to what I wanted, but I could in Vue. I feel the render quality with Vue better too. Many fear compatibility issues between Vue and Poser 5, that remains to be seen. I still have high hopes for the Firefly render engine.