So on the whole there seems to be a concensus. Anti Piracy schemes are always unpopular with legitimate users and while they may reduce the amount of piracy, they don't eliminate it. Also there is no real evidence that they generate additional sales from people who otherwise would have pirated copies of the product, and certainly not enough to counterbalance the loss of legitimate users who have been put off. And, although it may not be legal or ethical, there are certain people who use warez to like to "try before buy" their products rather than taking advantage of the return options. CL were discouraged from implementing this scheme with ProPack by reasoned arguments. I am sorry that they seem not to have taken them to heart. It will probably be as much to their own (financial) disadvantage as the purchasers. Bill PS. Schlabber, I believe it is strictly against the EULA of Poser 4, let alone Poser 5, to render on one machine while working with the main app on another, so in that respect nothing has changed. However, in the absence of network rendering or second processor support, and considering that Poser will effectively lock up your machine during renders, it would have been nice if the EULA had made a special (book analogy) exception in this case.