I think its worth the money. Look at the new features :) Clothroom, Morphroom and so on (I'm personally not interested in the new figures that comes with Poser 5)... If your using 3D Studio Max or Lightwave or Maya for example you have to pay lots of extra money to have that features. Poser comes with them in one package for a very good price. Maybe Poser 5 will be as buggie as Poser 4 when it comes out but I think CL will fix it all in a short time. Chris

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