Actually, I didn't quite bring it up, I don't believe. Someone else did prior in that thread. I just thought that it bore further examination, so I highlighted it with a quote and comment. I agree with you that that's probably the intent of the wording. I do think it needs to be stated differently, and that what useage and dsiply rights you want need to be specific. Simply put, the example interpretation I gave could easily be used, and that passage in the rules quoted to justify it. Wether Renderosity would or not... shrug Probably not. If Renderosity were to change hands, as farfetched as that might be, would the new owners hold to that intent? Quien sabe? Who knows? If the intent is simply rights to display the winning entires, state that. If the intent is to be able to display the winning entries, or all entries and print a list of entries in the Mag along with the images, state that. If the intent is to only keep useage of the images for specific purposes and for a reasonable length of time in reference to the contests - then state those uses and the length of time. But state it, not a blanket "undetermined" - that's way too ambiguous. No offense crescent, I don't care who a blanket undefined permissions like that comes from, I distrust blanket useage contracts, and I do so for good reasons. State specifics on useage and for how long, that's all I ask. You might even find that a lot more people enter contests, or are willing to submit items for various things. Heh. You won't disillusion me, nor do you need to explain to me that we don't try to do things "to" the membership. I was on the other side of that fence for a long time. All in all, it's been my observation that generally the hearts are in the right place, but the execution is lacking. It's a shame that it seems too often it takes prodding from the membership for the execution to change.

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