"* CuriousLabs got SPANKED when the ProPack was warezed * This was an assumption." This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys just don't know what's really going on at CL. Everything is just hearsay. And that seems to generate a lot of avoidable problems. If you guys were a bit closer with the company. You'd have a better understanding of the problems they have to deal with. And why they do what they do. I guess I know too much. But not quite enough. ;-) ScottA