Anthony, for those of us who grew up with the desktop-publishing industry (Is it okay to admit that I still own Photoshop 1 and Illustrator 88?), we have watched as installations became more and more complex and more and more demanding. I can deal with that, but what I have issues with is your apparent lack of distinction between your core market of users and the warez thieves. You guys pulled a serious boner when you initiated that amnesty program last year: in essence, you told every legal owner of Poser that the money they dropped on the program, whether full or upgrade, was pissed away when all they had to do was get a warez copy and then pay the miniscule amount you charged to make it legal. You guys never admitted you screwed up on that one, and maybe, before you start with this PR fiasco, you should consider doing so. Yes, warez is a thorny problem. But you don't stop it by making it harder on the legal user. If your crack science team is so good, let them come up with some sort of watermarked subprogram that's built into the CD, something spread thorughout the program instead of isolated in one spot, that checks and double-checks the program for integrity. Make it truly difficult to find and your hackers are gonna be working till the wee hours to figure it out. But let's not pretend you're going to get rid of hackers by using something as relatively simple as a challenge code.