Shonner, ..Installing software is a privilege. Not a right. Huh???!!! When I pay for that privilege you better believe I consider it a right. Can you imagine leasing a car if the salesperson said "Thanks for your money- maybe we'll let you drive it, maybe we won't"? (not that this is what CL is doing.) ...No respect for the hard-working people that made/own the software. Treat me with respect and you will have my respect. It is respect that is a privilege, not paid licenses. ...The real problem is most people here don't want to be honest because they are not honest people to begin with. In another thread I voiced my objections, decision to forego P5 and my sympathies towards CL's choice in this matter. Frankly, I resent the suggestion that I am a thief merely because my relatives are not sheep. To state an opinion is one thing. To assert sweeping generalities based on nothing but personal whimsy is quite another. - Jack