Whew! Gee, I take off one day and traipse downtown to Renderosity-Con (where I met Valendar handing out leaflets) and look what happens (grin). Took me nearly an hour to read and digest. The business people at CL, IMHO, have analyzed the situation and obviously made a decision that assumes/predicts the number of people who will not buy P5 due to the security messures will be LESS than the number of copies warez'ed (i.e., lost sales) without the scheme. I think it's that simple. Pure business. It's their right and duty as they struggle for a profitable company. Me? I don't like it. Don't like anything like that. But, like a lot of other things in life I put up with, I'll probably put up with that. I'll probably buy P5 (and still be just as unable to "make" art as I am now...hehe). I don't seem to have to format my HDs as much as a lot of other people so I don't think I'll have much of a problem. I don't have a desktop AND a laptop, but I will install a copy @ work and @ home (where I follow the intent of the licensing agreement, though not strictly). I certainly won't be using it at the same time (and NO one @ work will be able to use it while I am at home...they are even dumber than I am about that kind of stuff). If I DO run into problems and it somehow gets de-activated and turns into a re-curring nightmare, I'll step a bit outside of the law and find a "keyless" copy somewhere and install it instead. Like someone stated above, while technically against the law, CL is not out any money since I purchased a legal copy...and I believe that is their main concern. I certainly wouldn't worry about them "coming after" me for it. And I would NEVER give any software away to anyone. As to the annimation rendering times and running on 2 machines at the same time? I think CL needs to address that. I wonder if people who need that ability would consider it worth ponying up an extra $50 (give or take) for some sort of additional "simultaneous rendering" license. Or if CL can produce a free "rendering" utility that does only that. And, though not really an imminent worry, the remarks about any company going out of business is of some concern. It'd be nice if CL had a little utility to send every legal owner to "turn off" the security measures in the event they DO go under. As to "renting" software in the future? I believe that is the way MS (who drags the rest of the software people around by their digital nose) is heading. I'd hate to see it. I'd hate to wait for the overhead of paying and logging my time and fetching latest fixes and such over a dial-up connection each time I used a product of that type. It also leaves the people who have PCs in a standalone mode without a solution. If the major software companys DO resort to that method, I think they will lose out in the long run. I think it also sets the table for an upstart smaller company to grab some customers who want to pay once and use the software as much as they like. But, hey, what do I know? (smile) But I can tell you where I'll be sitting (or standing) tomorrow @ 10 am...in the P5 show and tell @ Renderosity-con. So, off to bed for me. PS: I think I saw Syyd there, too. Gotta go make sure!