"It has found a niche market that it does better than any other, and has created a community that is just short of addiction to support it." Well all said and done - no they don't own a niche market. Unlike Microsoft, who have little compitation to their OS (there is of course Linux but unlike Microsoft - it doesn't use Windows software very well), there are a far number of business's out there doing bone amination and morph type programs for their full products - and can be argued that they are far better than Poser 5 can do. For the more expensive - Lightwave, 3dMax Character Studio, Maya - just to name a few. Then you can look at the cheaper programs, and addons to programs. It is a matter of money - for some people who are having to spend the big bucks anyway - the difference between Poser, and Lightwave isn't as much as first thought - or even looking at some of the cheaper 3d Products. The question is - can CL afford to loss 8-10% of its market share over this? Because so far I have seen enough people say they won't get it - and spend their money on other things (me included). Then again - a lot of people might still buy it anyway... OR! What will probably happen is a lot more people who would have been honest will get the warez version... which pushs more sales away from CL, and will push them into bankruptcy... These are all things CL need to think about - they have to take the good with the bad, and the good is they protect their software - the possible bad is they loss business. Again warez people will crack it - it is a fact of life. Hell if they can crack WindowsXP and even the new SP1 which isn't even out yet - then honestly - why make us honest people suffer... ---- because - they don't turst us honest people... at least that is the way it is making me feel right now... WiNC