Scott, As a consumer what is wrong with wanting to "have it your way"? It seems to work other wise Burger King wouldn't use it as their trademark. Nor is there anything wrong with having an objection to an aspect of something that YOU BUY. chuckles Friends with customers... Steve and I are friends (or I'd like to think so, probably not anymore), but when it comes to the relationship BUSINESS COMES FIRST. Poser sales is what puts food on his and other families table over at Curious Labs. Warm fuzzies up the ass ain't going to fill the belly none. So, keeping that in mind and living in the real world in which we do, one would reason that if my company needs to make money to feed my family, I need to make sure that my company is going to make the best product out there so that it will MAKE LOTS of money and keep food on that table (and maybe buy me that Humvee I've always wanted). Yeah, I may have an established cult of followers to my product, but to get the good stuff, I am going to want to bring MORE customers to my door.... hmmm... how to do that... ah, yes, I will ask my friends and see what they think and how I can make more BUSINESS for my company. FACT: Mindless friggen sheep who worship everything about a company, friendship or not, doesn't help that company to expand it's product line. It doesn't help that company to make new sales... it is the people who sit there and offer opinions on that product, good or bad, that makes that product better... who better to ask than someone that "Wants it their way"? It's up to that company if they want to listen or not. I'll tell you this, my friendship with Steve Cooper has been strained over and over again because I tell him what I think, good or bad. His choice if he wants to use that opinion or not... he knows his business also and the money he has to spend on it... but I am sure my opinions have a TON more value than someone that will just spray drool all over the place as they chase the frisbee without asking why they are chasing it. In short: A friend will tell his friend if his zipper is down. Jack