Now consider this: 1) During the CD burning process ALL P5 data is ZIP'ped (or SIT'ed) with password protection. 2) The install program simply accepts the password to unpack the data and install. 3) The password is your CCard number, CVV code, Name on card and expiration MM YY. This info is unique and long enough as a password to prevent finding it out in this millennium (or the next!). Resulting in: a) Curious Labs needs to store the info in 3) anyway to bill your card so no extra effort, but changing their installer has to be put into the matter. (Should take only a few hours of programming). b)The buyers need not worry about the password as no personal data is burned on the CD. They can install as much copies as they want without Curious Labs having to worry about EULA issues. What buyer would give away such password? (Legit user anyway...) c) No challenge code, no callback robot, no phoning, no hassle. If only life was that easy... Cheers everyone! MaxxArcher