Erlik, I don't know what my problem is with DXF's. Bryce4 handled them just fine, but 5 always crashes on me. Even re-installed the prog with same results. An apology to spikey for my short answer earlier, I am posting from work, and they totally ticked me off tonite. Sorry to take it out on you. Erlik is right, it all depends on the format the model is saved in. It must be one that Bryce will recognize to import directly in.