Hi Folk! The real dummy is the person who for whatever reason doesn't ask the question and yet tries to do it anyway, and gets it all wrong. Often the resulting damage goes beyond self-inflicted harm and hurts others. Hey--I'm being paid to teach this stuff to others, and I'm not embarrassed to admit I don't know all the answers. This forum is and will continue to be a tremendous resource for me. When I'm not sure about how to get something done with certain software, I will tap into that resource, because the advice I get here is usually better than what I read in the manuals or reference books. Let's keep good forums like this one going. Peter (Dr Zik)