Why Melanie, you have been here longer than I have - I'm 43. Congrats! When I said - you and everyone else needs to get a grip - it wasn't necessarily saying that EVERY POINT I was making was meant for EVERY person in this forum. You need to get a grip in particular when you start saying - "I'm not going to buy it because of a principle. CL doesn't trust their customers and I find that insulting..." Read what I said about department store security and cameras, etc. You accept one but not the other? Perhaps because one has been around longer than the other and since we've lived with it for so long it's accepted? They are the same. And not understanding that you will eventually have to upgrade your computer because sometime in the future newer software won't be able to run on '98? Your principles may need adjustment if you will be running any popular software - unless copy protection dies. Not likely, but it's possible. Being 52 you should have a better understanding. My guess is that you do but are too angry to see it. Regardless of the fact that you don't have a car/don't drive - I would think that you would understand the meaning. I DO know that you never said anything to irk me personally :) but too often people say things before they think (gee, I'm NEVER guilty of that:) and then don't even think about it after that. If you don't want to buy Poser5 because it's got copy protection, fine. As I said before, most of the people saying that they won't be buying Poser5 because of the copy protection will eventually buy it because they'll be seeing too many great things coming out of people that have it. I wish you nothing but the best! Truly! Poppi - What I meant about everyone getting a grip... I guess in a way I DID mean you. Especially when you said that you didn't even know if you would find the software useful? Why would I expect you to buy it? What does that even have to do with you then. If you're not a real contender to buy the software, then why are you interested? And by the way... where did I try to "fudge on it"? Just curious. And the same to you - I wish you nothing but the best!