Well I refuse to post anything else until I get as good as that. I mean, hell, I've got a wacom tablet and photoshop.... wait a minute, what am I saying??? That would mean you fine folks would never hear from me again. :o) We can't have that. Actually what it HAS done is given me quite a few ideas to improve the quality of my stuff. I think that hobbit's gallery is the perfect answer to the earlier thread regarding the pros and cons of post-work. The end result DOES justify the means... it's the art that is the most important and not the tools. And I, personally, think way he posts to the multi-media gallery if his use of poser or photoshop is enough to warrant it is something that everyone should consider (i.e. the poser scenes simply rendered in bryce). of course, this is just my opinion. your actual mileage may vary. consult local listings. at any rate, that's what I like about this place, and why I keep coming back. I can learn so much about bryce, and other programs, and art, and myself in general, just from a simple "look at this picture" thread.