All, I think I will buy Poser 5 as soon as I get the money for it. Like I say nothing about the end user agreement disturbs me that much - and you have to remember something else too -contracts are an agreement between two or more parties and thus CAN be renegotiated. Anyway I am sorry that mentioning the CR2 Issue has opened up such a can of worms - I'm sure that there will be a reasonable resolution to it. We're dealing with reasonable people in the end the result will be reasonable. But I'd rather discuss Jim Burton's new boat. (There is a reason bikermouse doesn't wear a suit and tie. The tie could get caught in the rigging and the suit would get all that saltwater on it.) - TJ