"A fine sentiment RC but I do not recall anything being any better when you were in charge" You mean I was in charge and nobody told me?!? Tisa, I co-moded C&D for a while, but other than that, I wasn't really in charge of anything around here. I mostly did coding behind the scenes. That blame you're throwing around needs to land on someone else. ;) However, I am in charge somewhere else now. And yes, things are much better over there. ;)