Duane, I heartily agree with you in spirit, but I somehow suspect that Steve does as well and that the issue may very well be that CL's licensing agreement does not allow them to "pass along" to a 3rd party the tools and data needed to adapt a mesh. That's the first thing that came into my mind, at least. I hope that DAZ and CL will choose to find a way to work this out, because the ability to use a feature with only the default meshes is sadly limiting. Phoenix