People (usually) don't even take the time to pose the eyeballs or fingers...so what do you expect...staring and profusely bent knuckles do not make for variety...yeah...most images look Vicki-ish...most ads look Vicki-ish...well...there IS the odd Stephanie now...heh... On the other hand...there are also some REAL awsome renderings that defy all logic and really make a difference!!...in a ways it's good that no everyone can do this or they wouldn't be as noticable...LOL! I think the problem is most folks don't think about the face and hands...they may be in a hurry to just get the image out and look at the body and background thinking...okay...that's cool now...notice how much time is spent on the breasts at times though...my word...perfect huge gazonga's...yet the eyeballs may just STARE...the fingers might look broken...sometimes the neck seems out of wack...maybe cause of those big gazonga's...LOL... ...gets tiring getting all the clothes just right...(if there is clothes)...the hair to not look like bubblegum...the knees to not look like wood splinters...after all that...who wants to dabble with eyeballs and knuckles...who...?? Hey...I didn't start this thread... Cheers!