to WISARDOFGAUZE Where have you been, man ??? Haven't you read the feature list and the discussions concerning P5 ??? The library system is one of many new improvements... How about the ability to develop hair. The fact Pro PAck is integrated into P5...for those that did not buy PP..they now have it...minus the plugins-, but they're on the way. Face Room...use photos, face sculpting, etc etc the new renderer--hybrid micro-polygon and Ray Trace render engine with subdivision surface rendering of polygons. Dynamic Cloth... come on--this is a major upgrade..... >Saxon, people who don't need the new features would be >fools to buy P5, at least at this time. There is only one >significant improvement (as far as I can tell) to the old >Poser 4: the new Library system. Everything else seems >the same. Many might not consider that one improvement to >be worth $129.

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