The way it looks to me, what matters the most here is not so much what the EULA says, but how the users and 3rd party developers choose to address it. The worst possible thing that could happen is that people are simply afraid and decide to chuck whatever projects they may be working on. That's what I'm afraid of. One thing that could happen is that developers could zip off notes to CL asking Steve for a letter stating that their particular program is acceptible to CL. Another thing would be for somebody to create a list of generic types of programs... CR2 editors, morph managers, MAT/MOR file creators, whatever... and CL could write up a nice little document for their web site assuring people the right to create these types of programs and asking people to write for permission if their type of program is not on the list. It would not contradict the EULA and would not take rights away from the end user, so it could be done legally. thing is, if they say you can, and you've got it in writing, they can't take it back later. Just don't give up, you programmers out there! You do great work. Don't be afraid to ask them directly for a written OK. Phoenix