User and vendor here. Its interesting the differing views here. I'm an inveterate downloader and guess like most of you have now got unmanageable directories. I think if it wasn't for the promise of library heaven in P5 I would be seriously thinking of converting to a categorised rather than artist based structure. We will see if P% makes things any easier. In defence of vendors I really don't think its an ego thing_ more a 'following convention' thing. But I think some of you guys have a valid gripe_ with the explosion of available stuff its getting out of hand! Leather_Guy, again this obj thing isn't a laziness issue.. Its that flipping Pro Pak that (I believe) recreates the obj. in the library structure..When I uploaded some of my earlier models (with my obj in 'geometries' I was informed by the tester that I should put my obj.'s in the library files. I had assumed (and carried on in blissful ignorance)that it did'nt make any practical difference, but am happy to be educated if anybodies got any comments.