Thanks for responding, no two seperate copies, he bought his and i acquired mine from a family member who didn't have the patience to learn ! Wish they had changed their mind before buying. We may have found the problem. My computer was set up under a NSFT (? may be wrong) system instead of a FAT32, I have a 60 gb harddrive. So we partioned my harddrive into two, changed to the FAT32 and haven't crashed so far, except ones, and I believe it was because I went to far out of the axis (? really made an item large on poser the face to be exact) and it crashed to desktop. But since then I have not had a problem. Albeit I haven't had time to really work in it as I am still reinstalling. Will update as I go and let you all know. I hope this may help someone else in the future, in case they get this weird response. Thank you all for your help. Safe journey and blessed be, Myl