Credit for the fur goes to someone who posted it here the other day. I forgot to write it down. To the poster, sorry, but thanks :) I remapped the Zygote rat with UV mapper, made the map using the fur, created a bump and there you have it. Wilma is lit from directly above, and I think that's what makes the fur look so good. I don't like Max's pose/lighting; I'll take another crack at it, eventually. I wish I could finish Lover's Leap Roach Motel (www.ratta.com/max). The scenes are just too big for Ray Dream to handle (it gets very slow). I'm slowly porting all the props that are original over to Poser. Someday, when I have a little more time, I'd like to get a site together with all the stuff I've made for the Motel. There's a ton of it. And, write more, and model more, and... --ratta