I used the Firefly renderer - but here's the catch. According to the manual, it only renders the new P5 Firefly. Everything else is invisible. (just kidding) ;-D I DID use the P5 Firefly renderer for this and it took about about a full minute to render. Raytracing and texture filtering were turned off. The same setting was used with this image of Will, with his new jacket on. --jjsemp