Well, Im back You don't want to know what i went through to get this right 1) took the motherboard back to computech(A place here in the Washington DC area) and tried to get it right with the tech(s) there. they declared it was back technology and so I bought a agp video card....still no luck then they said it was an operating system misconfiguration. So I reformatted and started from scratch still no luck . out of frustration I yanked the agp card and put the nitro back in . windows found it non-problematic and I got my millions of colors back ( go figure) I have heard that AMD has problems with older adapters and stuff. anyway I'm back up and running but have to load all software again (Bryce first of corse) Thank the Gods that I have an 8.4 gig slave that I backed up all my models and textures -n-stuff Thanks for all the suggestions Hawkfyr

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