nicely put, xena. what folks don't seem to understand is: of course, cl wants to have friendly relations with its clientele databank...and that is what we all are. however, business is business, and, if you all aren't sitting down at the cooper household for dinner on a regular basis...you best believe that you are not really "friends". i have a little craptaceous business. sometimes i have to tell "half truths". i don't like that, but...business is business. if you don't have it in writing...no, a forum counts about as much as making a statement in a parking lot...it isn't binding. we were gonna get p5 for me at work....but, not until there is a clarification. as much as i would love to play in the face room with don and judy....i don't want to give away any of the rights i have with p4.