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tisa...i kind of understand what you are saying. i get so very tired browsing through the poser gallery...and, seeing basic ads for marketplace products getting tons of hits. even though, they are vicki out of the box, posed in some temple or other...with her default crossed eyes. poser does what no other 3d program does...it poses little people without much effort. and, it is cheap. no wonder so many of us swear by it. AND if you can learn a modelling program or 3, render in yet another program...you can become quite "high end" in the cgi world....tip...just don't mention you are using poser for anything...even the joint rotations... here's a link...hope you find some insights, here. thanks for shopping, poppi :*)