Good news...the firefly renderer seems to be quite good. I even think the default P4 renderer is faster...or so it seemed to me. And the interface, while expanded with several new rooms, still has much of the P4 feel to it. The dials have been changed to allow us to easily get rid of them (a plus from before.) And unlike some others, my online registration went smoothly--altho' I still have qualms with the challenge/response protection racket. enough 4 now. I must go play some more. --lb