Try turning on collision detection, and adjust according to taste. I think yhou'll be a happy(er) camper. -Tim<<< Collision detection altered nothing. It still looks like he slipped his suit coat into a veg-a-matic before putting it on. The suit is unuseable for all practical purposes. I guess the third-party vendors should be happy. And I don't know about anyone else, but if someone tried to sell me a suit with shoulders like that I'd have to wonder what planet they were from. It is going to be a long night... and I'm out of Chez-Its! No Chez-Its! Now I'm really irritated! Well, registration did go smoothly... in case I hadn't mentioned that yet. casamerica