Remember the dreaded spaghetti bender saves...?? Recall all the bugs...they were all eventually fixed.... If bugs were to hold places back from releasing things...we might never get new softwares...things happen...you may have found something no one beta testing could...now it will be looked after...or...maybe it IS just a glitch in methodolgy...give them time to sort it out...explain ;-) I understand your frustrations...I do...but at least poser 5 exists...now folks just have to work with it ;-) The alternative....would have been...nothing...(think back)... Cheers!