How did you upload the photos to the forum? I'm still working on some things. I have a vignette I'll probably post later today...it would be nice if I could post it directly from my word processor but I haven't figured out how yet. You know with all this writing going back and forth the average file size is only about 2K compared with how many meg for the pictures. One picture is not worth a thousand words in this case: it worth millions.