I was told by CL that Poser 5 should start arriving in Europe around the 15th September. However, they have also said elsewhere that the couriers, "Airbourne", I believe, don't deliver Saturday or Sunday. So, it's either Friday or early next week. Presumably the orders will be shipped on a "first come, first served" basis. The reason for the difference between the realisation of American shipments and European shipments was given as "an extra delay in getting product to our European distribution facility and then to you". I don't know anyone in Europe who even has a tracking number yet, so presumably the shipment has not yet arrived in Ireland. The reason for a simple bulk shipment by air (I would hope) across the Atlantic taking 5 days or more, I don't know. Usually even bulk shipments can be achieved within 24 to 48 hours. Perhaps the shipment has been given low priority due to ecconomy shipping rates. Personally, I would have been happy to pay the extra 20 - 30 euros that would have been necessary to get the package delivered by a reliable and speedy service like FedEx (24 -48 hours, door to door). Unfortunately, CL didn't make that service available. Judging from the rate of progress so far, I would estimate that the first packages will arrive mid next week. If you have only just made an order you might be looking at a 2 to 3 week wait. Sorry, to be the bearer of bad tidings. Still, we live in hope, CL may yet pull a rabbit out of the hat!