Cybermonk, Welcome to the bandwagon my friend. A group of friends and I have boycotted Poser 5 until CL remove the copyprotection. My arguement is pretty much the same as yours, since in the past I have been stung by companies with copyprotection very simular to this (and the only people it caused issues with was the customers, not the warez people). Yes, there are companies out there with this very same copy protection system (3dmax, WindowsXP) however I'm sorry CL is NOT discreet and is NOT Microsoft. CL has more chance of going bankrupt, or just folding their doors then either of those two companies, and if they do - I am sorry I don't believe that CL will give a toss about their customers (None of the companies I have dealt with before have even blinked an eye when the creditors are knocking at their doors). Now I'm seen as evil - but in this regard I'm damn proud of being labelled a sinner if it gets just one person to think twice before forking out their money to a company who introduces a copy protection scheme which they knew full well so many of their FAITHFUL customers didn't want. So - it is nice to have you a part of our evil group of thinkers Cybermonk :) LOL Hugs and best WiNC