The cloth dynamics took maybe 90 seconds. The hair dynamics less than a minute. The Final render took about 30 minutes, 300x300, No shadows, No anti-alias (60 frames BTW) The GIF was assembled from PSD files and cropped for size, gotta get under that 200kb limit. I had to drop 1/2 of the frames. Maybe I'll post the full size Quickime later. P-4/1.8, 1024MB, Poser's Process set to "Above Normal" W2K