Yeah what Phoenix says - and if what they have said before is true - if you replace your harddrive you will need a new activation code. Someone might want to format their hard drive and install Poser 5 again and see if it has any problems with that activation code that they have been given. According to some people who have bought the Avater software after a full install you have to get a new activation number again... Which brings me back to the other thing which I am against this activation security system - That CL can monitor each time you install the software - so if you reinstall 100 times and rinstall Poser 5 100 times - you can probably bet CL know you have :) WiNC