".. hair & cloth export from poser5 would be pointless as c4d, LW & max already have it as plugins or built into the programs themselves"...Good point and why is CL still "providing" to these biggies?...why not Vue 4.1 and others alike? Has it something to do with the EULA between them negotiation? Just wondering if e-on is looking at importing P5 stuff?...no harm giving us the "excitment" about it. I know some people got into Vue, beside being an excellent program at its price, though not perfect but it can import P4 files (PZ3).