Um it survived the transition from metaCreations JUST! remember the fear of loosing it, or that Corel was going to buy it and box it... And the point is - I'm perfectly in my right to state my dislike of the security system in CL - wither I buy it or not... I won't buy it - but just because I'm not going to buy it doesn't mean I'm going to get off my soap box and go away quietly with my bottom lip stuck out. I want the damn program - I want to use it - but because of this ONE THING that I am totally against I won't, and I want CL and others to know why, and I want CL to finally back down and say, "Okay - we will do more research and use a security system which isn't going to piss WiNC off" :P Okay selfcentred - yes - but I haven't got a hobby :) And I'm making this one :) At least I smile while complaining :) Sorry Tempus - I stand up for what I believe in - and I believe the CL is going to screw its customers, without wearing protection. Why do I feel this? I don't know - maybe I have been hurt before and this seems very close to what I have seen before, or maybe I just get this vibe that this is going to blow up in our faces. At least me not keeping my mouth shut means other people have the right to pick, and the right to make up their own mind. If people were all to keep quiet, then people wouldn't know there is things people don't like - and we wouldn't have a Democracy... Personally I really hope I'm proven wrong for once... But so far all of my predictions about companies and software 'problems' have come pretty much true in the past.... so time will tell... WiNC