to all the people who say "it just crashed again, can't be my fault it must be a bug", how do you know it's a bug? have you been using poser5 so long that you can instinctively tell it's a bug & not your inexperience or even your system not being up to the task of running poser5? you can't, I've tried to find out if it's a processor or driver problem but as no-one seems to be listening to me for the last 2 days when I ask these questions I'll just give up till I get my copy. This version of Poser5 has been written to run on windows, any number of bugs in windows itself could be causing the problems you have experienced, instead of screaming that poser is crap it keeps crashing find out what machines it was written/tested on, what drivers are on those systems what speed/make processor did they use, it could be something as simple as your processor is crap that's causing the problems.