Tempus, I don't disagree with a companys effort to protect its product nor am I saying that a company doesn't have the right to protect its product. But somewhere there has to be a line that offers a fair compromise between protecting a product and protecting a customers investment. I don't feel that my investment is secure, for many reasons that have been mentioned above. And lets face it, CL will spend time coming up with painful copy protection schemes and pirates will still get the software. I will end up suffering for their faults. And I am willing to suffer, but not to the point that I can't reinstall my program more than 3 times. The right way to fight against piracy isn't by harrassing your customers, it is by engaging with law enforcement agencies and going after those who sell/offer this product in an unauthorized fashion. And I know its easier said than done but I think frustrating the customers is far worse for a companys reputation and its product. And no, I don't want them to offer no copy protection, just one that is fair and reasonable. I am even willing to pay a little more if I need to given that I feel secure in my purchase. Poser 4 isn't the only software that gets pirated, I am sure there are many others, but this doesn't mean annoying your customer base, that is a counter productive move in my opinion. Thank you, Wind Walker