Heya Jeff...sorry did not change the room in mid render. About half way thru the render this is what P5 coughed on to the screen. It was a hard lockup of 2k...I have seen very few programs hard lock 2k in this way.<<< I have had the same thing in WinXP... often. I guess we're just two inexperienced whining bastards, Vairesh. We should wait for those who have more technical know-how and who are positive it is just our inexperience and system difficiencies. After all, some of them have figured that out without ever having used the damn thing! Now THAT is brilliance! I should proof this but I'm too damn tired. I've been sitting here since 4:30am this morning trying to figure out why this graphics program from Hell is doing what it is doing. And you know, it has locked up so many times that I've spent most of my time watching the computer reboot... well, that and dreaming back to that day when the registration went sooooo smoothly. casamerica