Ahh shucks....I'm not mad, just really,really frustrated. Ron, I am not getting this error due to a firewall ;-) P5 is on a 2k system with no other program loaded and no network connection or ethernet card. I did not try to move or click anything, honest, I was in the kitchen making a sandwich and came back to the frozen computer. Yes I know P5 is not the only buggy program out there...but still I want to create, be artistic, expand my horizons with P5 and it just is not letting me.......SIGH !