"Could it be that experienced P4 users are having more problems because,internaly,they expect it to behave the same way P4 did? And perhaps the high expectations have created alot of negative feelings,when the expectations weren't met right off." 'Zactly. I know a few beta testers, one of whom is a renowned P4 artist, who had trouble doing the most basic things with Poser 5. Our experience in P4 makes us resent starting over at square one, and that's understandable. For the record, Eowyn, inexperience means simply, lack of experience. I doubt anyone in this community, event he beta testers, could claim to be experienced users for P5. I doubt event the people who stared at the code for the last year would consider themselves "experienced." Also for the record, I've seen network engineers with 10 years experience who almost sent a server back because it wouldn't boot to monitor, who spent three days trying everything they could, reconfiguring the hardware many, many times, only to discover they hadn't ever turned the monitor on. So I'm not willing to buy that having worked with Poser and CGI and Windows for 500 years and having the shiniest piece of machinery on the block grants anyone a license to avoid mistakes and oversights. ;) Paul