Hi WiNC, Heya, great post! :) I think the talks like this are great when we can go over issues like this well. I just get upset when I see some posters shoot from the hip and start saying things that ain't true, or inflamatory. Especially when the guys at CL have always shown how much they care about the community. and I'm glad that people are out there concerned for peoples rights in general... I'm one of them too! Honestly, I think this is great, your comments here are right on the money, you're right there are a lot of cases where it's not easy/cheap for people to get license keys if they are not connected to the internet. (for a laugh I just had a picture of a tibetan monk with a computer :) lol ). On the other hand we have to take a look at the options from CL's side. Warez is out there, but a lot of the time it is very hard to download warez for a full app (1200mb) like poser. Especially since you really need the content for the program. A problem which is just as big is just "sharing" the already present CD... onto the topic of the good suggestions!!! I like the idea of a hardware dongle option! these usually are not used for lower cost software since the dongle itself is about $30-$40. that's not a problem if the software is $3000, but if it's only $300 that's another story! do you think that CL should make a Dongle option available for users who want it? it would probably have to cost $30-$40 for the option (they should probably leave the lower software-protected price as well for those who want it cheaper...) what do you think? cheers! -Josh