LOL, yeah maybe the break-cd wasn't the best :) but the point is.. it is a problem! just wanted to point out that problems can crop up in all schemes (not saying that some arn't more fraught than others). "As for doing a new thread... I can all but try - but I think CL just ignores me hoping I will diappear and give up :)" lol, yeah sometimes criticism feels like an attack... sooo what in the early messages could possibly seem like an attack! (playing innocent) :) It's always a challenge for all of us in a community to work to a solution together, and we're looking at this thread for our own software. I think a good thread with a positive spin towards a solution of a hardware dongle would be a very cool thing. Let them know that it's wanted, and how much you'd be willing to cover the x-tra cost. I'm looking forward to the conversation! best, -Josh