Anthony...what you hint at in #33 part 3 really upsets me. I had nothing to gain by posting that image other than alerting CL to a potential problem I saw on P2P. If I had doctored the image then why didn't I just crop out the user and leave everyone guessing instead of leaving the user name in or better just say it was on kazaa with no pic. I visit P2P regularly looking for my stuff. I know that you can do a search by user on kazaa. As a Poser merchant( one who relies on Poser for income) what did I have to gain from this ??? Not a darn thing ! I have not been able to pull it up again. Does that mean it did not exist ? Was it a virus or porn file ? It was transitory it seems. When it surfaces again(and it will) I will download it, zip it and send it to CL. What you do with it is up to you at that time. Here is a scenerio for you. If this is true then I am guilty for posting the pic and alerting the evil doer. Lets assume a rosity visitor saw my post had the file up and took it down... or shock of shocks renamed it to something else and is even now laughing at us all as it spreads thru the web. Hmmm... could orion be another nick for a rosity member. Or maybe a rosity member knows orion and tipped him/her off to change/take down the file for now. Dont ever assume the that All the people who warez are idiots or warez kiddies. The smart ones rely on extensive networks of people and alert systems to protect themselves.....but then CL already knows this I guess. Have a nice evening Anthony and I wish P5 every success ;-)